I am glad you ran into her again . Seems like just being able to have someone else validate our feelings can be a huge relief .
I am going through similar feelings and I will be interested in hearing what else the therapist has to say to you .
troubled mind
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Saw a Therapist yesterday,,,,, interesting
by man in black ini da'ed myself two years ago, one of the main reasons was because my mother died and the congregation was more interested in"meeting attendance, and service" than anything else.
for the first time in 30 years the very conditional friendship offered by the jehovahs witnesses came to the fore, and i was literally blindsided by it.. several months later i attended a grief support group at our local hospital, and boy it was a real godsend for me, i realised that the so called "worldly people' could actually be nice, supportive, and lend a real listening ear.
the hospital had one of their grief support counselors lead the meeting, and she was really good at what she does.
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Girls - what subject got you thinking?
by wannabefree inreading the post "how long did it take you to leave", i can't help but be envious of those of you who refer to leaving as a "we" event.. i know it has been said that women tend to react to feelings/emotions along with logic, can you help me with ideas that got you to feel something was wrong?
what should i work on planting with my wife?.
thanks..
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troubled mind
Things that worked on me was first the lack of freedom of conscience . My conscience said treat my df'd family members still like family ,but of course that is not approved by the society .
The thought that one day one of my son's might become df'd, and I would be expected to shun them tore me up inside .
The dishonesty of the no blood policy ....when in fact it now is all fractions are acceptable ,but we still don't take blood ......That kind of dishonesty that could make someone lose their life over a stupid manmade rule really ticked me off . I was mostly mad at myself for believing it so long, and putting my life, and that of my childrens in jeopardy.
Over the years is was becoming clearer and clearer that this was a society of men taking emphasis away from Jesus, and elevating themselves .
Unhappiness over the fact I was never going to be able to be considered good enough .
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Why do I suddenly get stupid when the elders talk to me
by JWinprotest indoes anyone else have the same problem.
when i'm alone, i am constantly thinking about all the clever things i'm going to say if visited by the elders, but when i actually get confronted, these things never come to mind, and i keep spitting out drivel like some dumb idiot.
after they leave, i rethink the conversation, and i'm furious over all the oppotunities i've missed to put them in their place.......damn it!!!!!
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In your position you are probably right ....saying nothing is the most effective route at the moment . My husband is king at giving no information ! It drives people crazy .
You can come here and vent what you really wanted to say ! Hopefully your situation will change soon and you will be free from it all .
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Why do I suddenly get stupid when the elders talk to me
by JWinprotest indoes anyone else have the same problem.
when i'm alone, i am constantly thinking about all the clever things i'm going to say if visited by the elders, but when i actually get confronted, these things never come to mind, and i keep spitting out drivel like some dumb idiot.
after they leave, i rethink the conversation, and i'm furious over all the oppotunities i've missed to put them in their place.......damn it!!!!!
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troubled mind
I think we have all experienced that feeling .....
Recently what has helped me speak my mind is thinking ahead what I want to say ,and totally realizing these guys are just everyday average people . I no longer look at them as men in authority positions . It helps to start the conversation off putting them on level ground with yourself ,such as talking about some past event you shared with them not in a KH setting ,like picnic ,camping ect .....That way it helps put in your mind they are your equal nothing more .
I find it helpful to listen first ....slowly think about what they have said ......respond slowly ....take a deep breath . Then once I start talking I pretty much don't take a breath until I have said my peace ....not giving them room to roadblock my thoughts .
Adamantly stick to your word . My thing is that I refuse to share any personal business with them . I repeat , repeat and repeat again ...'it is none of your business.' Conversations are getting shorter with them at least ,and I am sure they are getting fed up . They are shocked to have a woman speak to them honestly ,openly and un-afraid of them .
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update on why the Elders have been so busy trying to contact me
by troubled mind inthey have stopped by our house multiple times (we have been gone or just ignored their knocks) multiple phone messages requesting it is urgent that i call them back .
(screened all calls lately ).
today the phone rings and i tell my husband screw it i am answering and putting an end to this .. the elder on the other line is not the one that has been stopping by ,but rather my husbands ex-nephew through marriage .
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Thanks Zid I took your advice and made some privacy changes you suggested . I also added a little note on my profile page :
Let me suggest that if you do not have freedom of expression or thought then you shouldn't be viewing youtube videos on my account . Heaven forbid a cute animal video may damage your weak fragile state of mind . Or horrors of horrors you may be exposed to an alternative opinion ,or personal view opposite to the one sided contrived reality you have set up for yourself . Also if you are so immature and weak minded that you can't bare an opposing point of view ,then you should crawl back into the safe cocoon you are used to and stay out of others accounts .
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update on why the Elders have been so busy trying to contact me
by troubled mind inthey have stopped by our house multiple times (we have been gone or just ignored their knocks) multiple phone messages requesting it is urgent that i call them back .
(screened all calls lately ).
today the phone rings and i tell my husband screw it i am answering and putting an end to this .. the elder on the other line is not the one that has been stopping by ,but rather my husbands ex-nephew through marriage .
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My son wants me to submit my own version of Young People Ask on youtube .Videos you may not want to watch if you are content being a mind controlled drone ........
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update on why the Elders have been so busy trying to contact me
by troubled mind inthey have stopped by our house multiple times (we have been gone or just ignored their knocks) multiple phone messages requesting it is urgent that i call them back .
(screened all calls lately ).
today the phone rings and i tell my husband screw it i am answering and putting an end to this .. the elder on the other line is not the one that has been stopping by ,but rather my husbands ex-nephew through marriage .
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Thanks all .....I am fine over this, it really was beginning to stress me out having them calling and stopping by uninvited ,but now I feel better .
I think it is funny that the younger brother that turned ME in had to watch the video 's in order to know some of the points he complained about . Hypocrit
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update on why the Elders have been so busy trying to contact me
by troubled mind inthey have stopped by our house multiple times (we have been gone or just ignored their knocks) multiple phone messages requesting it is urgent that i call them back .
(screened all calls lately ).
today the phone rings and i tell my husband screw it i am answering and putting an end to this .. the elder on the other line is not the one that has been stopping by ,but rather my husbands ex-nephew through marriage .
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They have stopped by our house multiple times (we have been gone or just ignored their knocks) multiple phone messages requesting it is urgent that I call them back .(screened all calls lately )
Today the phone rings and I tell my husband screw it I am answering and putting an end to this .
The Elder on the other line is not the one that has been stopping by ,but rather my husbands ex-nephew through marriage . Seems his younger brother has been viewing my youtube account and saw quite a few anti -jehovah witness videos there that I had been viewing . (FYI ...I did not know others could see the videos I had saved to favorites )
He was very stern sounding and said the brothers want to meet with me and ask some questions about these videos on my youtube account . Also they want to ask if I want to remain a Jehovah's Witness .
So I told him I really did not know my account was not private ,but I still see no need for them to pry into my personal life . I said NO I will not meet nor answer any personal questions . Please tell the rest of the Elders to quit calling and stopping by ...if I have any questions I will contact them ! Then I just said good bye and hung up !
I guess I will wait and see what happens next . I refuse to DA just on the grounds it pisses me off they think they can still hold something over me .
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What did you think of the American Idol finale results?
by Think About It ini think crystal did much better than lee as far as performances in the finale.
also think she is much more talented.
lee is a great singer and will only get better the more comfortable he gets going big time.
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troubled mind
I think Crystal was the better performer and should have won . Last year I thought the same about Adam Lambert . Number 2 always seems to go on and do well so ....whatever . I thought the show this year was a let down after the last three yrs .
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Sick little boy!
by crapola inmy 10 year old grandson is in the hospital with really high blood pressure.
he has a urinary tract blockage which is affecting his kidney function,which resulted in the high blood pressure.
his dad, soonernc7 and his mom are with him now.
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troubled mind
So very sorry to hear your grandson is going through this crapola ......sending positive thoughts and wishing him a speedy recovery .